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February 4th 2007 10:49
I lost an entire blog post today, after painstakingly researching it, preparing links for it, and completing the entire (lengthy) entry for publication! (It was totally finished when I lost it!) The post was for my "Writer's Notes" blog. I'd been switching back and forth so much between websites for info, as well as minimizing and maximizing MS-Word, to use some info from it, that I got mixed up and, instead of clicking the 'minimize' button, as I'd meant to do, I clicked the 'X'--and we all know what that does!

I had repeatedly clicked 'preview post' while working on the blog entry to get a look at the entry's appearance, but never clicked the 'create post' button. Has my post been irretrievably lost? I'm assuming so, since I tried everything I could think of to find it--including going into file folders I never even knew existed on my computer's hard drive!

I've certainly heard enough about how nothing is ever really lost on your hard drive until it's overwritten--though it does usually seem to take the real experts to find it, I realize! Also, that statement does assume that it has been saved to begin with--and I'm not at all certain that my blog entry has been. If there's anything you can do to help me retrieve my blog post, though, I sure would appreciate it--because it's going to be an absolute bear to reproduce!

Thanks a lot!
Jeanne Dininni
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Comment by Ahmed

February 4th 2007 16:52
umm...

try your history settings.

are you using internet explorer or firefox?

whichever you might be, what you do is press ctrl and h at the same time, click on search and type in 'post' and press enter, you should get a bunch of corresponding links in your history.

oh wait, doesn't work with firefox It might work with IE if you done it on that.

Also you could try searching your temp files if you were *not* using firefox since it does wierd things to temp files, I'll try to find out where Internet explorer keeps temp files, you should try here

Hope it helps, I've lost good work in this manner quite a few times myself, I know how you feel

Comment by Adrian

February 4th 2007 19:51
Hey Jeanne, can't offer any suggestions -- mainly writing to offer my condolences and trite advice and empathy (certainly has happened to me numerous times before).

Even if you don't accidentally click the "X", sometimes Orble has temporary glitches where you can't create posts... It's probably best to always draft your stuff in Word and then transfer it across...

Another thought: I've heard of writers who write whole chapters, and then deliberately throw the chapters away, in order to start afresh.

Comment by Jeanne Dininni

February 5th 2007 03:35
Ahmed,

Thanks for your attempt to help! To answer your question, I am using Internet Explorer. When I used ctrl-h, as you recommended, it generated a list of temporary internet files, though the rest of your suggestion ("click on search and type in 'post' and press enter") didn't really do anything. Perhaps I didn't understand your instructions perfectly.

Anyway, both yesterday and today, I looked through a long list of temporary internet files, hoping to locate the missing blog post, with no luck! (Soon I'll have to delete all these files--but not just yet!)

Thanks, too, for the link to the article on About.com which gave an overview of how to find and view temporary internet files. It seemed to tell me to do the things I'd already done, though. My true suspicion is that the post was either never saved to my hard drive or there's something else going on here that I don't quite have a handle on yet.

I'm beginning to feel that I'd better just learn to accept this and move on! I either must do my best to recreate the lost post or write an entirely new one! Being a full-time college student, though, I'd been hoping to avoid either scenario, since time can be so scarce--and so much had already been spent preparing the post the first time! Oh, well! That's life, I guess!

Thanks again, Ahmed, for your help!
Jeanne


Adrian,

This is the point at which I must wax philosophical! Thanks so much for your words of encouragement! I appreciate your empathy more than you know! And thanks for the tip about drafting my posts in Word! That's not at all a bad idea! I think I'll use your suggestion! In the long run, I'm sure it will save me a great deal of grief! Will Word documents be compatible with the HTML text in the blog templates?

As far as throwing away whole chapters goes, that would normally not be me! I generally work and rework my writing, crafting it until I get it just the way I want it, and then I'm ready to post or publish it. (At times, I might get rid of something that simply isn't working and start over, but not usually!) While I sometimes make changes to it after posting, my work is, by the time of posting, pretty much ready to go. That's why it's such a loss to me, after all the hard work and perfectionism that went into it--not to mention how much of my inner self went into it! That's why I'd so hoped to be able to retrieve it.

But, oh well, I'll just have to come to terms with it and work on another update as soon as I'm able! It's back to school all day tomorrow--and homework the rest of tonight--so who knows when I'll have time to work on it again! What a disappointment! (Perhaps I need to make my blog posts shorter and less complex. But I do like to give the reader value!)

Well, thanks again for commiserating with me! I'm sure I'll get through this one way or another!

Sincerely,
Jeanne


Comment by Adrian

February 5th 2007 04:12
Hey Jeanne,

Will Word documents be compatible with the HTML text in the blog templates?

Nope! That's the annoying side. You have to add the "[coding]" "[/coding off]" stuff manually in Word... or remember what words need to be formatted, and insert them in Orble. I do this every time.

An alternative would be to write some macro to auto-Orble-format your Word text.

Comment by Jeanne Dininni

February 5th 2007 07:41
Thanks, again, Adrian! Looks as if I'll have to decide whether it's more inconvenient to potentially lose a blog post or manually insert HTML code into my Word documents! Tough decision--though, to be honest, my first inclination would be to take my chances with entering the post directly into the Orble template (more carefully, next time, of course) than to deal with converting MS-Word text into HTML text! I'll have to think on that one, though!

Jeanne

Comment by Jay

February 5th 2007 10:01
Hi Jeanne

Sorry to hear of your troubles - maybe we'll implement an auto-save feature at some point, but for the moment you are stuck Sorry...

I'd also suggest that Adrian is right using another program to write your post in. I would suggest using Wordpad, since this doesn't use some of the strange characters that MSWord does. However, also it doesn't (I think) have an auto-save feature, which is kind of what you are after?

Maybe at some stage we will allow you to load an MSWord file into the Orble interface? Well, I can dream

Laters
Jay

Comment by Ahmed

February 5th 2007 10:06
notepad would technically be the best thing to use since it doesn't format text at all. Doesn't have autosave either so you'll have to keep the <ctrl> and 's' keys in use.

MSWord into the orble interface? Heh, I dunno, getting CSS working with orble would be a lot cooler. Sure, slightly steaper learning curve but it would pay off.

Comment by Jay

February 5th 2007 10:19
Yeah I was going to suggest Notepad but it is so archaic I thought people would get upset

We've been working on the CSS support - we'll have something you can use soon...

Comment by Ahmed

February 5th 2007 10:51
heh, notepad rocks then again coming from me it isn't saying much, my uni thorougly brainwashed me after subjecting me to using VIM for the first year, Java C and C all through Vim, seriously, staring at that screen does things to you


Can't wait for the CSS support

Comment by Jay

February 5th 2007 11:08
I use (G)VI(M) as my regular editor - it is ace for programming, especially once you've set it up right I imagine it's not the best for writing posts/comments on though? People use MSWord because that's what they are used to, but it doesn't really work with transferring stuff onto Orble at all. Hence my thinking we need some kind of interface...

Comment by Jay

February 5th 2007 11:08
I use (G)VI(M) as my regular editor - it is ace for programming, especially once you've set it up right I imagine it's not the best for writing posts/comments on though? People use MSWord because that's what they are used to, but it doesn't really work with transferring stuff onto Orble at all. Hence my thinking we need some kind of interface...

Comment by Jay

February 5th 2007 11:08
I use (G)VI(M) as my regular editor - it is ace for programming, especially once you've set it up right I imagine it's not the best for writing posts/comments on though? People use MSWord because that's what they are used to, but it doesn't really work with transferring stuff onto Orble at all. Hence my thinking we need some kind of interface...

Comment by Jay

February 5th 2007 11:27
Erm, yeah, something went wrong there I am clearly a bit impatient...

Comment by Ahmed

February 5th 2007 11:31

Comment by Jay

February 5th 2007 11:57
I'm not as bad as my friend Ange, who will just start clicking randomly around the screen if a page takes longer than a couple of seconds to load. I used to work in an office with her, it is very annoying!

*click*

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Comment by Ahmed

February 5th 2007 12:12
better than my friend 'Bob' who'd yell profanities at the computer

'fuck you, you piece of shit, you cant even fucking fuck proper fuckingly, old men fuck better than you you piece of tin can shit holder'

Well I'm exaggerating but you get the picture

Comment by Adrian

February 5th 2007 21:33

Comment by Jeanne Dininni

February 11th 2007 00:41
Thanks, Jay and Ahmed for all your suggestions! I've just recreated the lost blog post--right in the Orble template and very carefully--and I actually managed to get through it OK! (Amazing!) But, Ahmed, just wondering: Do you really think we needed a direct quote from your friend, "Bob"? I know I, for one, could have lived without it! (I can see why you changed his name!)

Jeanne


Comment by Ahmed

February 11th 2007 00:49
you have to understand that I have to quote him directly to properly express his predicement... yeah, that works

Comment by Jeanne Dininni

February 11th 2007 09:54
Excuses, excuses!

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